2025-26 · Regular Season · Final
Phoenix Suns at Minnesota Timberwolves
Monday, December 8, 2025 · tip-off 7:30 PM ET
PHX 0–0@MIN 0–1 records going into the game NBA.com recap ↗
Forecast and result
| Team | Projected | Final | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| PHX Phoenix Suns | 112 | 108 | −4 |
| MIN Minnesota Timberwolves (home) | 120 | 105 | −15 |
Forecast: Minnesota Timberwolves to win, 71% win probability, projected margin 8.
Inside the Forecast
How the inputs are builtWhat the model received
| Input | PHX | MIN |
|---|---|---|
| Elo ratingMargin-of-victory Elo; 1500 is average. | 1532 | 1625 |
| Elo gap, home minus road, incl. home court | +163 | |
| Season scoring marginPoints per game, blended with last season early in the year. | +2.4 | +5.2 |
| Games played this season | 23 | 23 |
| Offensive rating, last 10Points scored per 100 possessions. | 113.2 | 117.2 |
| Defensive rating, last 10Points allowed per 100 possessions; lower is better. | 114.8 | 111.8 |
| Combined pace, last 10Possessions per game, both teams. | 100.0 | |
| Rotation points missingPoints per game of rotation players listed Out or Doubtful. | 19.9 | 0.0 |
| Rest days | 3 | 2 |
| Second night of a back-to-back | No | No |
This forecast can't be broken down exactly: the model version that made this forecast is not available. Explanations are shown only when the model that made a forecast can be rebuilt and reproduces it. How explanations are checked
Built from the box scores
How the breakdowns workWhere each input came from. Open a row to see the games and box-score stats behind it. A breakdown is shown only when rebuilding it from the stored stats gives exactly the number the model received.
Elo ratingPHX1532MIN1625
Updated after every game from the final score only: wins, losses and margin. Each season starts by keeping 75% of last season's distance from the 1500 average.
PHX1532
- Ended last season at 1429 → started this one at 1447
- First 13 games: +63.3
- Last 10 games: +22.2
- LATL122–124−5.5
- W@POR127–110+19.0
- WMIN114–113+4.5
- WSAS111–102+7.0
- LHOU92–114−15.9
- W@SAC112–100+10.7
- L@OKC119–123−1.4
- LDEN112–130−12.7
- W@LAL125–108+23.8
- L@HOU98–117−7.3
MIN1625
- Ended last season at 1690 → started this one at 1642
- First 13 games: −23.2
- Last 10 games: +6.1
- WDAL120–96+4.6
- WWAS120–109+1.0
- L@PHX113–114−4.5
- L@SAC112–117−10.8
- L@OKC105–113−3.2
- WBOS119–115+4.3
- WSAS125–112+6.6
- W@NOP149–142+2.8
- W@NOP125–116+3.1
- WLAC109–106+2.2
Season scoring marginPHX+2.4MIN+5.2
Points scored minus points allowed per game this season, mixed with last season's margin until 20 games are played.
PHX+2.4
Scores 116.2, allows 113.8 over 23 games: +2.4 a game.
MIN+5.2
Scores 120.3, allows 115.0 over 23 games: +5.2 a game.
Offensive rating, last 10PHX113.2MIN117.2
Points scored per 100 possessions. Split into the four factors: right of center helps the team, left hurts, in points per 100 possessions compared with the league average (2025-26 to date: 114.9).
PHX113.2scored, −1.7 vs league
| Factor | PHX | League | hurtshelps | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Shooting (eFG%) | 53.4% | 54.6% | −1.9 | |
| Turnovers (TOV%) | 12.8% | 12.5% | −0.5 | |
| Offensive rebounding (OREB%) | n/a | 26.2% | – | |
| Free throws (FTM per FGA) | 0.172 | 0.223 | −1.5 | |
| Everything else | +2.1 |
Offensive rebounds weren't recorded for 3 of these 10 games, so rebounding isn't split out; its effect is inside "Everything else".
MIN117.2scored, +2.3 vs league
| Factor | MIN | League | hurtshelps | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Shooting (eFG%) | 55.6% | 54.6% | +1.5 | |
| Turnovers (TOV%) | 12.3% | 12.5% | +0.2 | |
| Offensive rebounding (OREB%) | n/a | 26.2% | – | |
| Free throws (FTM per FGA) | 0.244 | 0.223 | +0.6 | |
| Everything else | −0.1 |
Offensive rebounds weren't recorded for 5 of these 10 games, so rebounding isn't split out; its effect is inside "Everything else".
Defensive rating, last 10PHX114.8MIN111.8
Points allowed per 100 possessions, built from what opponents did in those games. Bars point right when the defense held opponents below average. Split into the four factors: right of center helps the team, left hurts, in points per 100 possessions compared with the league average (2025-26 to date: 114.9).
PHX114.8allowed, −0.1 vs league
| Factor | Opponents | League | hurtshelps | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Shooting (eFG%) | 57.4% | 54.6% | −4.3 | |
| Turnovers (TOV%) | 15.8% | 12.5% | +4.7 | |
| Offensive rebounding (OREB%) | n/a | 26.2% | – | |
| Free throws (FTM per FGA) | 0.222 | 0.223 | +0.0 | |
| Everything else | −0.4 |
Offensive rebounds weren't recorded for 3 of these 10 games, so rebounding isn't split out; its effect is inside "Everything else".
MIN111.8allowed, −3.1 vs league
| Factor | Opponents | League | hurtshelps | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Shooting (eFG%) | 53.3% | 54.6% | +2.0 | |
| Turnovers (TOV%) | 12.0% | 12.5% | −0.7 | |
| Offensive rebounding (OREB%) | n/a | 26.2% | – | |
| Free throws (FTM per FGA) | 0.230 | 0.223 | −0.2 | |
| Everything else | +2.1 |
Offensive rebounds weren't recorded for 5 of these 10 games, so rebounding isn't split out; its effect is inside "Everything else".
Pace, last 10average 100.0
Possessions per 48 minutes. The model uses the average of the two teams. Faster games mean more points for both sides, so pace mostly moves the projected total, not the margin.
PHX 99.8 and MIN 100.2 → average 100.0 (league 2025-26 to date: 100.8)
Rotation points missingPHX19.9MIN0.0
Points per game of rotation players (two or more of the last 10 games this season, 15+ minutes) listed Out or Doubtful on the official injury report.
PHX19.9pts/g missing
| Player | Pts | Min | Games |
|---|---|---|---|
| Devin Booker | 19.9 | 33.3 | 9 |
Source: official injury report, 2025-12-08 17:30 ET. 9 rotation players.
MIN0.0pts/g missing
Every rotation player was available.
Source: official injury report, 2025-12-08 17:30 ET. 7 rotation players.
RestPHX3 daysMIN2 days
Days since the team's previous game, capped at 5. One day means the second night of a back-to-back.
PHX3days
Last played Dec 5 against HOU.
MIN2days
Last played Dec 6 against LAC.
The last 10 games behind these numbers, box-score totals
PHX
| Date | Opp | Score | FG | 3P | FT | TOV | OREB | Off | Def | Pace |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dec 5 | @HOU | 98–117 | 39-100 | 5-36 | 15-19 | 13 | – | 100.0 | 118.2 | 98.5 |
| Dec 1 | @LAL | 125–108 | 52-92 | 17-39 | 4-8 | 11 | – | 122.5 | 106.9 | 101.5 |
| Nov 29 | DEN | 112–130 | 39-88 | 14-42 | 20-26 | 7 | – | 120.4 | 139.8 | 93.0 |
| Nov 28 | @OKC | 119–123 | 42-92 | 15-44 | 20-24 | 18 | 13 | 112.3 | 116.0 | 106.0 |
| Nov 26 | @SAC | 112–100 | 42-91 | 14-42 | 14-20 | 14 | 17 | 115.5 | 103.1 | 97.0 |
| Nov 24 | HOU | 92–114 | 33-80 | 13-37 | 13-19 | 21 | 13 | 96.8 | 122.6 | 94.0 |
| Nov 23 | SAS | 111–102 | 43-97 | 14-38 | 11-16 | 6 | 11 | 113.3 | 106.3 | 97.0 |
| Nov 21 | MIN | 114–113 | 39-81 | 14-31 | 22-29 | 27 | 15 | 110.7 | 108.7 | 103.5 |
| Nov 18 | @POR | 127–110 | 47-98 | 14-40 | 19-22 | 15 | 18 | 121.0 | 104.8 | 105.0 |
| Nov 16 | ATL | 122–124 | 47-97 | 10-30 | 18-19 | 17 | 16 | 119.6 | 121.6 | 102.0 |
MIN
| Date | Opp | Score | FG | 3P | FT | TOV | OREB | Off | Def | Pace |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dec 6 | LAC | 109–106 | 34-68 | 11-25 | 30-34 | 13 | – | 121.1 | 115.2 | 91.0 |
| Dec 4 | @NOP | 125–116 | 42-92 | 15-38 | 26-29 | 19 | – | 111.6 | 105.5 | 111.0 |
| Dec 2 | @NOP | 149–142 | 52-104 | 20-51 | 25-29 | 9 | – | 133.0 | 127.9 | 101.0 |
| Nov 30 | SAS | 125–112 | 49-87 | 17-37 | 10-13 | 12 | – | 133.0 | 117.9 | 94.5 |
| Nov 29 | BOS | 119–115 | 41-83 | 21-48 | 16-20 | 14 | – | 124.0 | 119.8 | 96.0 |
| Nov 26 | @OKC | 105–113 | 33-80 | 17-37 | 22-37 | 14 | 12 | 106.1 | 113.0 | 99.5 |
| Nov 24 | @SAC | 112–117 | 40-97 | 13-42 | 19-22 | 16 | 15 | 101.8 | 106.4 | 99.6 |
| Nov 21 | @PHX | 113–114 | 39-86 | 12-37 | 23-33 | 19 | 14 | 108.7 | 110.7 | 103.5 |
| Nov 19 | WAS | 120–109 | 42-94 | 13-38 | 23-32 | 9 | 19 | 122.4 | 112.4 | 97.5 |
| Nov 17 | DAL | 120–96 | 44-97 | 14-44 | 18-25 | 16 | 14 | 110.1 | 88.9 | 108.5 |
Off and Def are points scored and allowed per 100 possessions in each game; their averages are the 10-game ratings above. OREB is missing (–) where the source data didn't record it.
The result against the forecast
2025-26 surprise gamesSurprise is measured against this model's forecast, not against what other observers expected. Outcome surprise is −ln(winner's pregame probability): 0.69 for a coin flip, 2.3 for a 10% winner.
Team box score
What happened in the game. These numbers are not used by the forecast, and they are not offered as the reason it missed.
| Team stat | PHX | MIN |
|---|---|---|
| Final score | 108 | 105 |
| Field goals | 41–90 · 45.6% | 39–83 · 47.0% |
| Three-pointers | 12–33 · 36.4% | 11–42 · 26.2% |
| Free throws | 14–20 · 70.0% | 16–23 · 69.6% |
| Rebounds | 43 | 46 |
| Assists | 26 | 26 |
| Turnovers | 9 | 13 |
| Steals | 8 | 5 |
| Blocks | 2 | 1 |
How the model does with these teams over time: Phoenix Suns · Minnesota Timberwolves
Where the forecast differed from the result
| Measure | Forecast | Actual | Actual − forecast |
|---|---|---|---|
| Home margin (MIN) | +8 | −3 | −11 |
| Total points | 232 | 213 | −19 |
| PHX points | 112 | 108 | −4 |
| MIN points | 120 | 105 | −15 |
Recent form before this game
Previous meetings
| Date | Matchup | Score |
|---|---|---|
| Nov 21 2025-26 | MIN at PHX | MIN 113 – 114 PHX |
| Mar 28 2024-25 | PHX at MIN | PHX 109 – 124 MIN |
| Mar 2 2024-25 | MIN at PHX | MIN 116 – 98 PHX |
| Jan 29 2024-25 | MIN at PHX | MIN 121 – 113 PHX |
| Nov 17 2024-25 | PHX at MIN | PHX 117 – 120 MIN |