← Forecasts for Dec 4

2022-23 · Regular Season · Final

Phoenix Suns at San Antonio Spurs

Sunday, December 4, 2022 · tip-off time not recorded

PHX 1–2@SAS 0–2 records going into the game NBA.com recap ↗

Win probability as a share of the court: PHX 70 percent, SAS 30 percent. PHX Suns 70% proj. 123 · final 133 SAS Spurs · home 30% proj. 115 · final 95
Each team's share of the floor is its pregame win probability. The line starts at midcourt and moves to the split.

Forecast and result

TeamProjectedFinalDifference
PHX Phoenix Suns 123 133 +10
SAS San Antonio Spurs (home) 115 95 −20

Forecast: Phoenix Suns to win, 70% win probability, projected margin 8.

Inside the Forecast

How the inputs are built
What the model received
InputPHXSAS
Elo ratingMargin-of-victory Elo; 1500 is average. 16081360
Elo gap, home minus road, incl. home court −179
Season scoring marginPoints per game, blended with last season early in the year. +7.0−10.7
Games played this season 2223
Offensive rating, last 10Points scored per 100 possessions. 119.6103.8
Defensive rating, last 10Points allowed per 100 possessions; lower is better. 112.5121.3
Combined pace, last 10Possessions per game, both teams. 101.2
Rotation points missingPoints per game of rotation players listed Out or Doubtful. 10.141.2
Rest days 22
Second night of a back-to-back NoNo

This forecast can't be broken down exactly: the model version that made this forecast is not available. Explanations are shown only when the model that made a forecast can be rebuilt and reproduces it. How explanations are checked

Built from the box scores

How the breakdowns work

Where each input came from. Open a row to see the games and box-score stats behind it. A breakdown is shown only when rebuilding it from the stored stats gives exactly the number the model received.

Elo ratingPHX1608SAS1360

Updated after every game from the final score only: wins, losses and margin. Each season starts by keeping 75% of last season's distance from the 1500 average.

PHX1608

1500
  1. Ended last season at 1599 → started this one at 1574
  2. First 12 games: +14.0
  3. Last 10 games: +20.1
  • L@MIA112–113−3.4
  • WGSW130–119+8.3
  • L@UTA133–134−3.6
  • WNYK116–95+8.5
  • WLAL115–105+3.4
  • WDET108–102+1.9
  • WUTA113–112+2.2
  • W@SAC122–117+5.7
  • WCHI132–113+6.8
  • LHOU121–122−9.7

SAS1360

1500
  1. Ended last season at 1486 → started this one at 1489
  2. First 13 games: −25.8
  3. Last 10 games: −103.6
  • L@GSW95–132−11.8
  • L@POR110–117−7.3
  • L@SAC112–130−10.4
  • L@LAC97–119−10.5
  • L@LAL92–123−18.3
  • LNOP110–129−10.6
  • LLAL94–105−12.8
  • LLAL138–143−7.5
  • L@OKC111–119−6.1
  • LNOP99–117−8.3
Season scoring marginPHX+7.0SAS−10.7

Points scored minus points allowed per game this season, mixed with last season's margin until 20 games are played.

PHX+7.0

Scores 116.0, allows 109.0 over 22 games: +7.0 a game.

SAS−10.7

Scores 110.1, allows 120.8 over 23 games: −10.7 a game.

Offensive rating, last 10PHX119.6SAS103.8

Points scored per 100 possessions. Split into the four factors: right of center helps the team, left hurts, in points per 100 possessions compared with the league average (2022-23 to date: 112.2).

PHX119.6scored, +7.4 vs league

FactorPHXLeaguehurtshelpsPts
Shooting (eFG%)56.5%54.0%+3.8
Turnovers (TOV%)11.6%12.7%+1.5
Offensive rebounding (OREB%)29.6%23.9%+2.5
Free throws (FTM per FGA)0.1640.209−1.3
Everything else+0.9

SAS103.8scored, −8.3 vs league

FactorSASLeaguehurtshelpsPts
Shooting (eFG%)49.6%54.0%−6.7
Turnovers (TOV%)12.6%12.7%+0.2
Offensive rebounding (OREB%)27.0%23.9%+1.4
Free throws (FTM per FGA)0.1420.209−1.9
Everything else−1.2
Defensive rating, last 10PHX112.5SAS121.3

Points allowed per 100 possessions, built from what opponents did in those games. Bars point right when the defense held opponents below average. Split into the four factors: right of center helps the team, left hurts, in points per 100 possessions compared with the league average (2022-23 to date: 112.2).

PHX112.5allowed, +0.4 vs league

FactorOpponentsLeaguehurtshelpsPts
Shooting (eFG%)53.4%54.0%+0.9
Turnovers (TOV%)13.0%12.7%+0.4
Offensive rebounding (OREB%)23.7%23.9%+0.1
Free throws (FTM per FGA)0.2540.209−1.3
Everything else−0.5

SAS121.3allowed, +9.2 vs league

FactorOpponentsLeaguehurtshelpsPts
Shooting (eFG%)61.3%54.0%−11.1
Turnovers (TOV%)13.1%12.7%+0.7
Offensive rebounding (OREB%)20.1%23.9%+1.7
Free throws (FTM per FGA)0.2340.209−0.7
Everything else+0.3
Pace, last 10average 101.2

Possessions per 48 minutes. The model uses the average of the two teams. Faster games mean more points for both sides, so pace mostly moves the projected total, not the margin.

PHX 100.7 and SAS 101.8 → average 101.3 (league 2022-23 to date: 100.1)

Rotation points missingPHX10.1SAS41.2

Points per game of rotation players (two or more of the last 10 games this season, 15+ minutes) listed Out or Doubtful on the official injury report.

PHX10.1pts/g missing

PlayerPtsMinGames
Torrey Craig10.129.59

Source: official injury report, 2022-12-04 17:30 ET. 8 rotation players.

SAS41.2pts/g missing

PlayerPtsMinGames
Jakob Poeltl13.323.67
Doug McDermott10.720.07
Jeremy Sochan9.426.48
Josh Richardson7.821.95

Source: official injury report, 2022-12-04 17:30 ET. 11 rotation players.

RestPHX2 daysSAS2 days

Days since the team's previous game, capped at 5. One day means the second night of a back-to-back.

PHX2days

Last played Dec 2 against HOU.

SAS2days

Last played Dec 2 against NOP.

The last 10 games behind these numbers, box-score totals

PHX

DateOppScoreFG3PFTTOVOREBOffDefPace
Dec 2HOU121–12245-8517-3714-19179122.2122.099.5
Nov 30CHI132–11349-9315-3319-211310126.9108.7104.0
Nov 28@SAC122–11750-9410-3212-141711117.3111.4104.5
Nov 26UTA113–11242-926-2223-30618120.2119.194.0
Nov 25DET108–10242-877-2917-261311108.0103.099.5
Nov 22LAL115–10548-10216-343-5158106.595.5109.0
Nov 20NYK116–9543-10117-3913-181322122.199.095.5
Nov 18@UTA133–13449-949-3026-281412127.9131.4103.0
Nov 16GSW130–11944-8621-4021-25158121.5111.2107.0
Nov 14@MIA112–11348-9914-362-41120123.1124.291.0

SAS

DateOppScoreFG3PFTTOVOREBOffDefPace
Dec 2NOP99–11738-9811-3912-16121094.3113.6104.0
Nov 30@OKC111–11941-9210-3719-251013108.8119.0101.0
Nov 26LAL138–14353-10518-3714-201017129.0132.4107.5
Nov 25LAL94–10538-1006-3312-16162092.2102.9102.0
Nov 23NOP110–12941-8510-3418-28188103.8120.6106.5
Nov 20@LAL92–12341-1057-343-10101388.5118.3104.0
Nov 19@LAC97–11936-877-2618-211515102.1124.095.5
Nov 17@SAC112–13046-8411-269-12187113.1131.399.0
Nov 15@POR110–11744-859-2913-171911112.2120.697.5
Nov 14@GSW95–13236-10010-4013-19182294.1130.7101.0

Off and Def are points scored and allowed per 100 possessions in each game; their averages are the 10-game ratings above. OREB is missing (–) where the source data didn't record it.

The result against the forecast

2022-23 surprise games
70%
pregame chance the forecast gave PHX, the winner
PHX was the forecast favorite
30 pts
margin miss
forecast −8, actual −38 for SAS
1071st
most surprising result of 2022-23
of 1,314 graded games
26th
largest margin miss of 2022-23
outcome surprise 0.36 nats

Surprise is measured against this model's forecast, not against what other observers expected. Outcome surprise is −ln(winner's pregame probability): 0.69 for a coin flip, 2.3 for a 10% winner.

Team box score

What happened in the game. These numbers are not used by the forecast, and they are not offered as the reason it missed.

Team statPHXSAS
Final score13395
Field goals49–94 · 52.1%38–87 · 43.7%
Three-pointers19–37 · 51.4%6–31 · 19.4%
Free throws16–20 · 80.0%13–18 · 72.2%
Rebounds4540
Assists3819
Turnovers1119
Steals55
Blocks03

Where the forecast differed from the result

MeasureForecastActualActual − forecast
Home margin (SAS)−8−38−30
Total points238228−10
PHX points123133+10
SAS points11595−20

Recent form before this game

Phoenix Suns

DateOpponentResult
Dec 2 vs HOU L 121–122
Nov 30 vs CHI W 132–113
Nov 28 at SAC W 122–117
Nov 26 vs UTA W 113–112
Nov 25 vs DET W 108–102

San Antonio Spurs

DateOpponentResult
Dec 2 vs NOP L 99–117
Nov 30 at OKC L 111–119
Nov 26 vs LAL L 138–143
Nov 25 vs LAL L 94–105
Nov 23 vs NOP L 110–129

Previous meetings

DateMatchupScore
Jan 30 2021-22 SAS at PHX SAS 110 – 115 PHX
Jan 17 2021-22 PHX at SAS PHX 121 – 107 SAS
Dec 6 2021-22 SAS at PHX SAS 104 – 108 PHX
Nov 22 2021-22 PHX at SAS PHX 115 – 111 SAS