← Forecasts for Dec 8

2024-25 · Regular Season · Final

Charlotte Hornets at Indiana Pacers

Sunday, December 8, 2024 · tip-off time not recorded

CHA 0–0@IND 0–0 records going into the game NBA.com recap ↗

Win probability as a share of the court: CHA 23 percent, IND 77 percent. CHA Hornets 23% proj. 107 · final 113 IND Pacers · home 77% proj. 118 · final 109
Each team's share of the floor is its pregame win probability. The line starts at midcourt and moves to the split.

Forecast and result

TeamProjectedFinalDifference
CHA Charlotte Hornets 107 113 +6
IND Indiana Pacers (home) 118 109 −9

Forecast: Indiana Pacers to win, 77% win probability, projected margin 11.

Inside the Forecast

How the inputs are built
What the model received
InputCHAIND
Elo ratingMargin-of-victory Elo; 1500 is average. 13421460
Elo gap, home minus road, incl. home court +188
Season scoring marginPoints per game, blended with last season early in the year. −5.9−4.2
Games played this season 2324
Offensive rating, last 10Points scored per 100 possessions. 108.3110.6
Defensive rating, last 10Points allowed per 100 possessions; lower is better. 116.0115.6
Combined pace, last 10Possessions per game, both teams. 99.2
Rotation points missingPoints per game of rotation players listed Out or Doubtful. 68.20.0
Rest days 12
Second night of a back-to-back YesNo

This forecast can't be broken down exactly: the model version that made this forecast is not available. Explanations are shown only when the model that made a forecast can be rebuilt and reproduces it. How explanations are checked

Built from the box scores

How the breakdowns work

Where each input came from. Open a row to see the games and box-score stats behind it. A breakdown is shown only when rebuilding it from the stored stats gives exactly the number the model received.

Elo ratingCHA1342IND1460

Updated after every game from the final score only: wins, losses and margin. Each season starts by keeping 75% of last season's distance from the 1500 average.

CHA1342

1500
  1. Ended last season at 1321 → started this one at 1366
  2. First 13 games: +15.0
  3. Last 10 games: −38.7
  • L@BKN115–116−2.6
  • WDET123–121+3.9
  • L@MIL119–125−3.5
  • LORL84–95−7.1
  • LMIA94–98−4.7
  • LNYK98–99−2.2
  • LATL104–107−4.9
  • LPHI104–110−8.0
  • L@NYK101–125−4.0
  • LCLE102–116−5.6

IND1460

1500
  1. Ended last season at 1603 → started this one at 1577
  2. First 14 games: −59.0
  3. Last 10 games: −58.2
  • L@HOU113–130−8.7
  • L@MIL117–129−9.7
  • WWAS115–103+3.0
  • WNOP114–110+3.3
  • WPOR121–114+3.6
  • LDET106–130−33.7
  • L@MEM121–136−9.0
  • L@TOR111–122−11.8
  • L@BKN90–99−8.4
  • W@CHI132–123+13.2
Season scoring marginCHA−5.9IND−4.2

Points scored minus points allowed per game this season, mixed with last season's margin until 20 games are played.

CHA−5.9

Scores 106.8, allows 112.7 over 23 games: −5.9 a game.

IND−4.2

Scores 114.2, allows 118.4 over 24 games: −4.2 a game.

Offensive rating, last 10CHA108.3IND110.6

Points scored per 100 possessions. Split into the four factors: right of center helps the team, left hurts, in points per 100 possessions compared with the league average (2024-25 to date: 112.7).

CHA108.3scored, −4.3 vs league

FactorCHALeaguehurtshelpsPts
Shooting (eFG%)51.1%54.2%−4.7
Turnovers (TOV%)13.3%12.5%−1.1
Offensive rebounding (OREB%)27.8%24.7%+1.4
Free throws (FTM per FGA)0.1660.198−0.9
Everything else+1.0

IND110.6scored, −2.1 vs league

FactorINDLeaguehurtshelpsPts
Shooting (eFG%)55.4%54.2%+1.9
Turnovers (TOV%)13.7%12.5%−1.7
Offensive rebounding (OREB%)21.6%24.7%−1.4
Free throws (FTM per FGA)0.1990.198+0.1
Everything else−0.9
Defensive rating, last 10CHA116.0IND115.6

Points allowed per 100 possessions, built from what opponents did in those games. Bars point right when the defense held opponents below average. Split into the four factors: right of center helps the team, left hurts, in points per 100 possessions compared with the league average (2024-25 to date: 112.7).

CHA116.0allowed, +3.3 vs league

FactorOpponentsLeaguehurtshelpsPts
Shooting (eFG%)55.7%54.2%−2.4
Turnovers (TOV%)13.1%12.5%+0.9
Offensive rebounding (OREB%)29.1%24.7%−1.9
Free throws (FTM per FGA)0.2160.198−0.5
Everything else+0.6

IND115.6allowed, +2.9 vs league

FactorOpponentsLeaguehurtshelpsPts
Shooting (eFG%)58.5%54.2%−6.6
Turnovers (TOV%)13.2%12.5%+1.0
Offensive rebounding (OREB%)21.2%24.7%+1.6
Free throws (FTM per FGA)0.1910.198+0.2
Everything else+0.9
Pace, last 10average 99.2

Possessions per 48 minutes. The model uses the average of the two teams. Faster games mean more points for both sides, so pace mostly moves the projected total, not the margin.

CHA 95.0 and IND 103.3 → average 99.2 (league 2024-25 to date: 99.8)

Rotation points missingCHA68.2IND0.0

Points per game of rotation players (two or more of the last 10 games this season, 15+ minutes) listed Out or Doubtful on the official injury report.

CHA68.2pts/g missing

PlayerPtsMinGames
LaMelo Ball34.634.65
Tre Mann12.023.42
Grant Williams12.035.03
Tidjane Salaün7.821.99
Moussa Diabaté1.825.69

Source: official injury report, 2024-12-08 17:30 ET. 10 rotation players.

IND0.0pts/g missing

Every rotation player was available.

Source: official injury report, 2024-12-08 17:30 ET. 9 rotation players.

RestCHA1 daysIND2 days

Days since the team's previous game, capped at 5. One day means the second night of a back-to-back.

CHA1day, back-to-back

Last played Dec 7 against CLE.

IND2days

Last played Dec 6 against CHI.

The last 10 games behind these numbers, box-score totals

CHA

DateOppScoreFG3PFTTOVOREBOffDefPace
Dec 7CLE102–11637-8611-3917-19106110.9127.591.5
Dec 5@NYK101–12540-8915-396-101010109.8134.492.5
Dec 3PHI104–11034-7713-3423-281515111.8118.393.0
Nov 30ATL104–10735-9418-4816-191415105.1110.398.0
Nov 29NYK98–9936-8915-4711-151314106.5107.692.0
Nov 27MIA94–9837-9817-513-81314100.0105.493.5
Nov 25ORL84–9531-757-3215-1926790.3102.293.0
Nov 23@MIL119–12541-10019-4718-211014114.4120.2104.0
Nov 21DET123–12144-9320-4415-211511116.0115.295.5
Nov 19@BKN115–11638-8220-3719-222113118.6118.497.5

IND

DateOppScoreFG3PFTTOVOREBOffDefPace
Dec 6@CHI132–12352-9218-3010-12127126.9118.3104.0
Dec 4@BKN90–9932-758-3318-2216592.8103.196.5
Dec 3@TOR111–12238-8412-3023-28209103.7113.0107.5
Dec 1@MEM121–13643-9014-4221-26156112.0124.8108.5
Nov 29DET106–13041-8512-3312-13167103.9127.5102.0
Nov 27POR121–11446-9413-3216-201219131.5121.393.0
Nov 25NOP114–11043-9117-4711-16136109.6106.8103.5
Nov 24WAS115–10341-8612-2721-271111115.0103.0100.0
Nov 22@MIL117–12943-9111-3420-271513110.4122.9105.5
Nov 20@HOU113–13044-835-2220-25233100.0115.0113.0

Off and Def are points scored and allowed per 100 possessions in each game; their averages are the 10-game ratings above. OREB is missing (–) where the source data didn't record it.

The result against the forecast

2024-25 surprise games
23%
pregame chance the forecast gave CHA, the winner
the forecast favored IND
15 pts
margin miss
forecast +11, actual −4 for IND
26th
most surprising result of 2024-25
of 1,309 graded games
336th
largest margin miss of 2024-25
outcome surprise 1.47 nats

Surprise is measured against this model's forecast, not against what other observers expected. Outcome surprise is −ln(winner's pregame probability): 0.69 for a coin flip, 2.3 for a 10% winner.

Team box score

What happened in the game. These numbers are not used by the forecast, and they are not offered as the reason it missed.

Team statCHAIND
Final score113109
Field goals40–78 · 51.3%42–82 · 51.2%
Three-pointers14–29 · 48.3%12–36 · 33.3%
Free throws19–26 · 73.1%13–15 · 86.7%
Rebounds4529
Assists2423
Turnovers2417
Steals119
Blocks37

Where the forecast differed from the result

MeasureForecastActualActual − forecast
Home margin (IND)+11−4−15
Total points225222−3
CHA points107113+6
IND points118109−9

Score by quarter

TeamQ1Q2Q3Q4OTFinal
CHA28352030–113
IND24382027–109

Recent form before this game

Charlotte Hornets

DateOpponentResult
Dec 7 vs CLE L 102–116
Dec 5 at NYK L 101–125
Dec 3 vs PHI L 104–110
Nov 30 vs ATL L 104–107
Nov 29 vs NYK L 98–99

Indiana Pacers

DateOpponentResult
Dec 6 at CHI W 132–123
Dec 4 at BKN L 90–99
Dec 3 at TOR L 111–122
Dec 1 at MEM L 121–136
Nov 29 vs DET L 106–130

Previous meetings

DateMatchupScore
Nov 8 2024-25 IND at CHA IND 83 – 103 CHA
Feb 12 2023-24 IND at CHA IND 102 – 111 CHA
Feb 4 2023-24 IND at CHA IND 115 – 99 CHA
Dec 20 2023-24 CHA at IND CHA 113 – 144 IND
Nov 4 2023-24 CHA at IND CHA 125 – 124 IND