2024-25 · Regular Season · Final
Charlotte Hornets at Indiana Pacers
Sunday, December 8, 2024 · tip-off time not recorded
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Forecast and result
| Team | Projected | Final | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| CHA Charlotte Hornets | 107 | 113 | +6 |
| IND Indiana Pacers (home) | 118 | 109 | −9 |
Forecast: Indiana Pacers to win, 77% win probability, projected margin 11.
Inside the Forecast
How the inputs are builtWhat the model received
| Input | CHA | IND |
|---|---|---|
| Elo ratingMargin-of-victory Elo; 1500 is average. | 1342 | 1460 |
| Elo gap, home minus road, incl. home court | +188 | |
| Season scoring marginPoints per game, blended with last season early in the year. | −5.9 | −4.2 |
| Games played this season | 23 | 24 |
| Offensive rating, last 10Points scored per 100 possessions. | 108.3 | 110.6 |
| Defensive rating, last 10Points allowed per 100 possessions; lower is better. | 116.0 | 115.6 |
| Combined pace, last 10Possessions per game, both teams. | 99.2 | |
| Rotation points missingPoints per game of rotation players listed Out or Doubtful. | 68.2 | 0.0 |
| Rest days | 1 | 2 |
| Second night of a back-to-back | Yes | No |
This forecast can't be broken down exactly: the model version that made this forecast is not available. Explanations are shown only when the model that made a forecast can be rebuilt and reproduces it. How explanations are checked
Built from the box scores
How the breakdowns workWhere each input came from. Open a row to see the games and box-score stats behind it. A breakdown is shown only when rebuilding it from the stored stats gives exactly the number the model received.
Elo ratingCHA1342IND1460
Updated after every game from the final score only: wins, losses and margin. Each season starts by keeping 75% of last season's distance from the 1500 average.
CHA1342
- Ended last season at 1321 → started this one at 1366
- First 13 games: +15.0
- Last 10 games: −38.7
- L@BKN115–116−2.6
- WDET123–121+3.9
- L@MIL119–125−3.5
- LORL84–95−7.1
- LMIA94–98−4.7
- LNYK98–99−2.2
- LATL104–107−4.9
- LPHI104–110−8.0
- L@NYK101–125−4.0
- LCLE102–116−5.6
IND1460
- Ended last season at 1603 → started this one at 1577
- First 14 games: −59.0
- Last 10 games: −58.2
- L@HOU113–130−8.7
- L@MIL117–129−9.7
- WWAS115–103+3.0
- WNOP114–110+3.3
- WPOR121–114+3.6
- LDET106–130−33.7
- L@MEM121–136−9.0
- L@TOR111–122−11.8
- L@BKN90–99−8.4
- W@CHI132–123+13.2
Season scoring marginCHA−5.9IND−4.2
Points scored minus points allowed per game this season, mixed with last season's margin until 20 games are played.
CHA−5.9
Scores 106.8, allows 112.7 over 23 games: −5.9 a game.
IND−4.2
Scores 114.2, allows 118.4 over 24 games: −4.2 a game.
Offensive rating, last 10CHA108.3IND110.6
Points scored per 100 possessions. Split into the four factors: right of center helps the team, left hurts, in points per 100 possessions compared with the league average (2024-25 to date: 112.7).
CHA108.3scored, −4.3 vs league
| Factor | CHA | League | hurtshelps | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Shooting (eFG%) | 51.1% | 54.2% | −4.7 | |
| Turnovers (TOV%) | 13.3% | 12.5% | −1.1 | |
| Offensive rebounding (OREB%) | 27.8% | 24.7% | +1.4 | |
| Free throws (FTM per FGA) | 0.166 | 0.198 | −0.9 | |
| Everything else | +1.0 |
IND110.6scored, −2.1 vs league
| Factor | IND | League | hurtshelps | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Shooting (eFG%) | 55.4% | 54.2% | +1.9 | |
| Turnovers (TOV%) | 13.7% | 12.5% | −1.7 | |
| Offensive rebounding (OREB%) | 21.6% | 24.7% | −1.4 | |
| Free throws (FTM per FGA) | 0.199 | 0.198 | +0.1 | |
| Everything else | −0.9 |
Defensive rating, last 10CHA116.0IND115.6
Points allowed per 100 possessions, built from what opponents did in those games. Bars point right when the defense held opponents below average. Split into the four factors: right of center helps the team, left hurts, in points per 100 possessions compared with the league average (2024-25 to date: 112.7).
CHA116.0allowed, +3.3 vs league
| Factor | Opponents | League | hurtshelps | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Shooting (eFG%) | 55.7% | 54.2% | −2.4 | |
| Turnovers (TOV%) | 13.1% | 12.5% | +0.9 | |
| Offensive rebounding (OREB%) | 29.1% | 24.7% | −1.9 | |
| Free throws (FTM per FGA) | 0.216 | 0.198 | −0.5 | |
| Everything else | +0.6 |
IND115.6allowed, +2.9 vs league
| Factor | Opponents | League | hurtshelps | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Shooting (eFG%) | 58.5% | 54.2% | −6.6 | |
| Turnovers (TOV%) | 13.2% | 12.5% | +1.0 | |
| Offensive rebounding (OREB%) | 21.2% | 24.7% | +1.6 | |
| Free throws (FTM per FGA) | 0.191 | 0.198 | +0.2 | |
| Everything else | +0.9 |
Pace, last 10average 99.2
Possessions per 48 minutes. The model uses the average of the two teams. Faster games mean more points for both sides, so pace mostly moves the projected total, not the margin.
CHA 95.0 and IND 103.3 → average 99.2 (league 2024-25 to date: 99.8)
Rotation points missingCHA68.2IND0.0
Points per game of rotation players (two or more of the last 10 games this season, 15+ minutes) listed Out or Doubtful on the official injury report.
CHA68.2pts/g missing
| Player | Pts | Min | Games |
|---|---|---|---|
| LaMelo Ball | 34.6 | 34.6 | 5 |
| Tre Mann | 12.0 | 23.4 | 2 |
| Grant Williams | 12.0 | 35.0 | 3 |
| Tidjane Salaün | 7.8 | 21.9 | 9 |
| Moussa Diabaté | 1.8 | 25.6 | 9 |
Source: official injury report, 2024-12-08 17:30 ET. 10 rotation players.
IND0.0pts/g missing
Every rotation player was available.
Source: official injury report, 2024-12-08 17:30 ET. 9 rotation players.
RestCHA1 daysIND2 days
Days since the team's previous game, capped at 5. One day means the second night of a back-to-back.
CHA1day, back-to-back
Last played Dec 7 against CLE.
IND2days
Last played Dec 6 against CHI.
The last 10 games behind these numbers, box-score totals
CHA
| Date | Opp | Score | FG | 3P | FT | TOV | OREB | Off | Def | Pace |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dec 7 | CLE | 102–116 | 37-86 | 11-39 | 17-19 | 10 | 6 | 110.9 | 127.5 | 91.5 |
| Dec 5 | @NYK | 101–125 | 40-89 | 15-39 | 6-10 | 10 | 10 | 109.8 | 134.4 | 92.5 |
| Dec 3 | PHI | 104–110 | 34-77 | 13-34 | 23-28 | 15 | 15 | 111.8 | 118.3 | 93.0 |
| Nov 30 | ATL | 104–107 | 35-94 | 18-48 | 16-19 | 14 | 15 | 105.1 | 110.3 | 98.0 |
| Nov 29 | NYK | 98–99 | 36-89 | 15-47 | 11-15 | 13 | 14 | 106.5 | 107.6 | 92.0 |
| Nov 27 | MIA | 94–98 | 37-98 | 17-51 | 3-8 | 13 | 14 | 100.0 | 105.4 | 93.5 |
| Nov 25 | ORL | 84–95 | 31-75 | 7-32 | 15-19 | 26 | 7 | 90.3 | 102.2 | 93.0 |
| Nov 23 | @MIL | 119–125 | 41-100 | 19-47 | 18-21 | 10 | 14 | 114.4 | 120.2 | 104.0 |
| Nov 21 | DET | 123–121 | 44-93 | 20-44 | 15-21 | 15 | 11 | 116.0 | 115.2 | 95.5 |
| Nov 19 | @BKN | 115–116 | 38-82 | 20-37 | 19-22 | 21 | 13 | 118.6 | 118.4 | 97.5 |
IND
| Date | Opp | Score | FG | 3P | FT | TOV | OREB | Off | Def | Pace |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dec 6 | @CHI | 132–123 | 52-92 | 18-30 | 10-12 | 12 | 7 | 126.9 | 118.3 | 104.0 |
| Dec 4 | @BKN | 90–99 | 32-75 | 8-33 | 18-22 | 16 | 5 | 92.8 | 103.1 | 96.5 |
| Dec 3 | @TOR | 111–122 | 38-84 | 12-30 | 23-28 | 20 | 9 | 103.7 | 113.0 | 107.5 |
| Dec 1 | @MEM | 121–136 | 43-90 | 14-42 | 21-26 | 15 | 6 | 112.0 | 124.8 | 108.5 |
| Nov 29 | DET | 106–130 | 41-85 | 12-33 | 12-13 | 16 | 7 | 103.9 | 127.5 | 102.0 |
| Nov 27 | POR | 121–114 | 46-94 | 13-32 | 16-20 | 12 | 19 | 131.5 | 121.3 | 93.0 |
| Nov 25 | NOP | 114–110 | 43-91 | 17-47 | 11-16 | 13 | 6 | 109.6 | 106.8 | 103.5 |
| Nov 24 | WAS | 115–103 | 41-86 | 12-27 | 21-27 | 11 | 11 | 115.0 | 103.0 | 100.0 |
| Nov 22 | @MIL | 117–129 | 43-91 | 11-34 | 20-27 | 15 | 13 | 110.4 | 122.9 | 105.5 |
| Nov 20 | @HOU | 113–130 | 44-83 | 5-22 | 20-25 | 23 | 3 | 100.0 | 115.0 | 113.0 |
Off and Def are points scored and allowed per 100 possessions in each game; their averages are the 10-game ratings above. OREB is missing (–) where the source data didn't record it.
The result against the forecast
2024-25 surprise gamesSurprise is measured against this model's forecast, not against what other observers expected. Outcome surprise is −ln(winner's pregame probability): 0.69 for a coin flip, 2.3 for a 10% winner.
Team box score
What happened in the game. These numbers are not used by the forecast, and they are not offered as the reason it missed.
| Team stat | CHA | IND |
|---|---|---|
| Final score | 113 | 109 |
| Field goals | 40–78 · 51.3% | 42–82 · 51.2% |
| Three-pointers | 14–29 · 48.3% | 12–36 · 33.3% |
| Free throws | 19–26 · 73.1% | 13–15 · 86.7% |
| Rebounds | 45 | 29 |
| Assists | 24 | 23 |
| Turnovers | 24 | 17 |
| Steals | 11 | 9 |
| Blocks | 3 | 7 |
How the model does with these teams over time: Charlotte Hornets · Indiana Pacers
Where the forecast differed from the result
| Measure | Forecast | Actual | Actual − forecast |
|---|---|---|---|
| Home margin (IND) | +11 | −4 | −15 |
| Total points | 225 | 222 | −3 |
| CHA points | 107 | 113 | +6 |
| IND points | 118 | 109 | −9 |
Score by quarter
| Team | Q1 | Q2 | Q3 | Q4 | OT | Final |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| CHA | 28 | 35 | 20 | 30 | – | 113 |
| IND | 24 | 38 | 20 | 27 | – | 109 |
Recent form before this game
Previous meetings
| Date | Matchup | Score |
|---|---|---|
| Nov 8 2024-25 | IND at CHA | IND 83 – 103 CHA |
| Feb 12 2023-24 | IND at CHA | IND 102 – 111 CHA |
| Feb 4 2023-24 | IND at CHA | IND 115 – 99 CHA |
| Dec 20 2023-24 | CHA at IND | CHA 113 – 144 IND |
| Nov 4 2023-24 | CHA at IND | CHA 125 – 124 IND |