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2024-25 · Regular Season · Final

Brooklyn Nets at Golden State Warriors

Monday, November 25, 2024 · tip-off time not recorded

BKN 0–0@GSW 2–1 records going into the game NBA.com recap ↗

Win probability as a share of the court: BKN 21 percent, GSW 79 percent. BKN Nets 21% proj. 106 · final 128 GSW Golden State Warriors · home 79% proj. 118 · final 120
Each team's share of the floor is its pregame win probability. The line starts at midcourt and moves to the split.

Forecast and result

TeamProjectedFinalDifference
BKN Brooklyn Nets 106 128 +22
GSW Golden State Warriors (home) 118 120 +2

Forecast: Golden State Warriors to win, 79% win probability, projected margin 12.

Inside the Forecast

How the inputs are built
What the model received
InputBKNGSW
Elo ratingMargin-of-victory Elo; 1500 is average. 14261634
Elo gap, home minus road, incl. home court +278
Season scoring marginPoints per game, blended with last season early in the year. −3.2+7.6
Games played this season 1716
Offensive rating, last 10Points scored per 100 possessions. 114.1112.8
Defensive rating, last 10Points allowed per 100 possessions; lower is better. 118.8109.6
Combined pace, last 10Possessions per game, both teams. 98.2
Rotation points missingPoints per game of rotation players listed Out or Doubtful. 33.814.3
Rest days 12
Second night of a back-to-back YesNo

This forecast can't be broken down exactly: the model version that made this forecast is not available. Explanations are shown only when the model that made a forecast can be rebuilt and reproduces it. How explanations are checked

Built from the box scores

How the breakdowns work

Where each input came from. Open a row to see the games and box-score stats behind it. A breakdown is shown only when rebuilding it from the stored stats gives exactly the number the model received.

Elo ratingBKN1426GSW1634

Updated after every game from the final score only: wins, losses and margin. Each season starts by keeping 75% of last season's distance from the 1500 average.

BKN1426

1500
  1. Ended last season at 1412 → started this one at 1434
  2. First 7 games: −3.0
  3. Last 10 games: −4.4
  • WMEM106–104+3.4
  • L@BOS104–108−1.3
  • L@CLE100–105−2.3
  • W@NOP107–105+6.4
  • LBOS114–139−8.5
  • L@NYK122–124−2.0
  • L@NYK104–114−4.1
  • WCHA116–115+2.6
  • L@PHI98–113−10.7
  • W@SAC108–103+12.1

GSW1634

1500
  1. Ended last season at 1620 → started this one at 1590
  2. First 6 games: +33.2
  3. Last 10 games: +11.0
  • W@WAS125–112+4.6
  • W@BOS118–112+12.4
  • L@CLE117–136−14.6
  • W@OKC127–116+16.3
  • WDAL120–117+3.7
  • WMEM123–118+2.2
  • L@LAC99–102−7.0
  • WATL120–97+5.4
  • W@NOP112–108+3.3
  • L@SAS94–104−15.3
Season scoring marginBKN−3.2GSW+7.6

Points scored minus points allowed per game this season, mixed with last season's margin until 20 games are played.

BKN−3.2

Scores 110.6, allows 113.9 over 17 games: −3.2 a game.

85% this season (−3.2) + 15% last season (−2.9) = −3.2

GSW+7.6

Scores 117.6, allows 108.8 over 16 games: +8.8 a game.

80% this season (+8.8) + 20% last season (+2.6) = +7.6

Offensive rating, last 10BKN114.1GSW112.8

Points scored per 100 possessions. Split into the four factors: right of center helps the team, left hurts, in points per 100 possessions compared with the league average (2024-25 to date: 112.7).

BKN114.1scored, +1.4 vs league

FactorBKNLeaguehurtshelpsPts
Shooting (eFG%)55.9%53.9%+2.9
Turnovers (TOV%)12.7%12.4%−0.4
Offensive rebounding (OREB%)21.6%24.9%−1.5
Free throws (FTM per FGA)0.1940.200−0.2
Everything else+0.5

GSW112.8scored, +0.2 vs league

FactorGSWLeaguehurtshelpsPts
Shooting (eFG%)53.5%53.9%−0.6
Turnovers (TOV%)11.8%12.4%+0.8
Offensive rebounding (OREB%)28.7%24.9%+1.7
Free throws (FTM per FGA)0.1680.200−0.9
Everything else−0.8
Defensive rating, last 10BKN118.8GSW109.6

Points allowed per 100 possessions, built from what opponents did in those games. Bars point right when the defense held opponents below average. Split into the four factors: right of center helps the team, left hurts, in points per 100 possessions compared with the league average (2024-25 to date: 112.7).

BKN118.8allowed, +6.2 vs league

FactorOpponentsLeaguehurtshelpsPts
Shooting (eFG%)56.2%53.9%−3.4
Turnovers (TOV%)11.6%12.4%−1.2
Offensive rebounding (OREB%)26.5%24.9%−0.7
Free throws (FTM per FGA)0.1890.200+0.3
Everything else−1.2

GSW109.6allowed, −3.0 vs league

FactorOpponentsLeaguehurtshelpsPts
Shooting (eFG%)51.6%53.9%+3.5
Turnovers (TOV%)11.6%12.4%−1.2
Offensive rebounding (OREB%)23.1%24.9%+0.8
Free throws (FTM per FGA)0.2030.200−0.1
Everything else−0.0
Pace, last 10average 98.2

Possessions per 48 minutes. The model uses the average of the two teams. Faster games mean more points for both sides, so pace mostly moves the projected total, not the margin.

BKN 93.9 and GSW 102.5 → average 98.2 (league 2024-25 to date: 99.7)

Rotation points missingBKN33.8GSW14.3

Points per game of rotation players (two or more of the last 10 games this season, 15+ minutes) listed Out or Doubtful on the official injury report.

BKN33.8pts/g missing

PlayerPtsMinGames
Dorian Finney-Smith11.928.87
Noah Clowney8.616.98
Nic Claxton7.726.97
Ben Simmons5.624.45

Source: official injury report, 2024-11-25 17:30 ET. 11 rotation players.

GSW14.3pts/g missing

PlayerPtsMinGames
De'Anthony Melton14.323.73

Source: official injury report, 2024-11-25 17:30 ET. 10 rotation players.

RestBKN1 daysGSW2 days

Days since the team's previous game, capped at 5. One day means the second night of a back-to-back.

BKN1day, back-to-back

Last played Nov 24 against SAC.

GSW2days

Last played Nov 23 against SAS.

The last 10 games behind these numbers, box-score totals

BKN

DateOppScoreFG3PFTTOVOREBOffDefPace
Nov 24@SAC108–10336-7519-3917-25125113.7109.694.5
Nov 22@PHI98–11339-7913-377-7196107.7122.891.5
Nov 19CHA116–11542-8518-4114-191310118.4118.697.5
Nov 17@NYK104–11432-7617-4123-3097119.5128.188.0
Nov 15@NYK122–12439-8919-4625-28910124.5124.099.0
Nov 13BOS114–13940-7919-4315-18123117.5143.397.0
Nov 11@NOP107–10536-8419-4216-191614112.6110.595.0
Nov 9@CLE100–10534-7615-4317-181710108.7114.192.0
Nov 8@BOS104–10841-10010-3812-151212103.0106.991.5
Nov 4MEM106–10440-8413-3613-181312115.2110.693.0

GSW

DateOppScoreFG3PFTTOVOREBOffDefPace
Nov 23@SAS94–10436-9514-448-131017102.2114.391.5
Nov 22@NOP112–10839-8712-3722-291614113.1106.9100.0
Nov 20ATL120–9747-10114-4012-18159107.186.6112.0
Nov 18@LAC99–10237-8416-449-1919996.1100.0102.5
Nov 15MEM123–11843-9819-4618-251914112.8106.3110.0
Nov 12DAL120–11745-9414-4116-271218116.5112.5103.5
Nov 10@OKC127–11645-8921-4316-231413128.3117.299.0
Nov 8@CLE117–13647-9813-4210-141711109.3127.1107.0
Nov 6@BOS118–11242-9114-3420-241115122.9116.796.0
Nov 4@WAS125–11244-9712-3725-34616120.2108.7103.5

Off and Def are points scored and allowed per 100 possessions in each game; their averages are the 10-game ratings above. OREB is missing (–) where the source data didn't record it.

The result against the forecast

2024-25 surprise games
21%
pregame chance the forecast gave BKN, the winner
the forecast favored GSW
20 pts
margin miss
forecast +12, actual −8 for GSW
16th
most surprising result of 2024-25
of 1,309 graded games
181st
largest margin miss of 2024-25
outcome surprise 1.56 nats

Surprise is measured against this model's forecast, not against what other observers expected. Outcome surprise is −ln(winner's pregame probability): 0.69 for a coin flip, 2.3 for a 10% winner.

Team box score

What happened in the game. These numbers are not used by the forecast, and they are not offered as the reason it missed.

Team statBKNGSW
Final score128120
Field goals41–83 · 49.4%45–93 · 48.4%
Three-pointers20–45 · 44.4%19–46 · 41.3%
Free throws26–30 · 86.7%11–17 · 64.7%
Rebounds4243
Assists2332
Turnovers1112
Steals68
Blocks35

Where the forecast differed from the result

MeasureForecastActualActual − forecast
Home margin (GSW)+12−8−20
Total points224248+24
BKN points106128+22
GSW points118120+2

Score by quarter

TeamQ1Q2Q3Q4OTFinal
BKN34242941–128
GSW30372528–120

Recent form before this game

Brooklyn Nets

DateOpponentResult
Nov 24 at SAC W 108–103
Nov 22 at PHI L 98–113
Nov 19 vs CHA W 116–115
Nov 17 at NYK L 104–114
Nov 15 at NYK L 122–124

Golden State Warriors

DateOpponentResult
Nov 23 at SAS L 94–104
Nov 22 at NOP W 112–108
Nov 20 vs ATL W 120–97
Nov 18 at LAC L 99–102
Nov 15 vs MEM W 123–118

Previous meetings

DateMatchupScore
Feb 5 2023-24 GSW at BKN GSW 109 – 98 BKN
Dec 16 2023-24 BKN at GSW BKN 120 – 124 GSW
Jan 22 2022-23 BKN at GSW BKN 120 – 116 GSW
Dec 21 2022-23 GSW at BKN GSW 113 – 143 BKN
Jan 29 2021-22 BKN at GSW BKN 106 – 110 GSW